[MD] What is SOM?

Krimel Krimel at Krimel.com
Mon Aug 25 11:42:09 PDT 2008


SA:  You don't understand, you find it confusing.  And I asked, if a
scientist finds something confusing, do they just brush it off and say, oh
that's confusing and "I find them laughable."  Isn't that an example of what
Kuhn referred to as anamolies, and so your cultivating anamolies with your
pigeon-holing.  We all pigeon-hole reality, and learning is something we do
to break out of our pigeon-hole.  Your confused about "experience", and what
experience means, not I.  What am I and others understanding that your not?
Maybe we're all crazy, but have you really tried to understand what Pirsig
means by "experience".  Have you searched, even with the browser "Find" in
your Word documentation for the word "experience" in ZMM and Lila to find
out how Pirsig uses the concept?  And even if you go on and still don't
understand what "experience" means in the moq, and others argue against how
you are trying to define "experience", then wouldn't this mean your
 definition of "experience" is incomplete?  Maybe ours is incomplete and
we've gone off the deep end, but we are understanding something your not.
Not to say you understand something I don't understand.  Experience is not
just subject, but also object.  Experience is an event.  Not saying this
thinking, "Oh, you'll get it now."  I thought I'd provide some definition,
instead of only pointing out that your confused.

[Krimel]
You are probably right maybe a little stroll in the forest would clear
things up for me. Problem is every time I try to get into the forest all
these trees seem to be in the way.




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