[MD] For Peter

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Ham]
If a criticism of your theory on rational grounds implies "stupidity" on your
part, I defer to the author's judgment.

[Arlo]
"Rational grounds"? You mean "I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you" is a
rational rebuttal to an argument? At any rate, yeah, I know you disagree with
me. I get that. What I want is what answers you offer instead. Let's see if you
can do that?

[Ham]
What follows is an abridgement of the creation hypothesis detailed in my online
thesis.

[Arlo]
Yes, this is the same gobbledygook you rolled out last time. Try as I might
(being of lesser intellect than you) I simply cannot find any answers to my two
questions therein. Maybe you could highlight your answers into my reposted
questions below? And if anyone else thinks there are answers to my questions in
the word soup Ham offered, please by all means, highlight the parts that answer
these questions. Better yet, cut and paste the relevant parts beneath each
question below.

To remind.

1. YOU claimed "consciousness evolves from genus to species". Isn't that right?

2. Fine, I say. HOW? Physiologists propose it's evolution is based on the
genetic mutations of DNA. "No, no", you say. Social theorists say it's
evolution is based on the creation of, and participation in, a collective
consciousness. "No no", you say. Fine, then HOW? HOW according to Ham does your
non-physiological, non-social consciousness evolve over time?

3. YOU claimed that at some point in the timeline there existed a time when
consciousness did not exist, in some pre-pre-primates. Then there existed a
time when consciousness did exist.

4. Fine, I say. WHAT CHANGED? Physiologists say biology changed. "No no", you
say "that's scientific reductionism". Social theorists say the introduction of
social activity is what changed. "No no", you say "that's commie nonsense".
Fine, then WHAT CHANGED? WHAT according to Ham is the non-physiological,
non-social change in the historic timeline that leads to consciousness?

You've also claimed, I am told, that "not all members of a species evolve at
the same rate". I have follow-up questions to this, but I will wait until you
ever can answer any of these here.

[Ham]
You will not accept this thesis, because you are beholden to Pirsig's hierarchy
of existence and reject a metaphysical source. 

[Arlo]
You mean Qualigod/Essiegod? Yes, I reject that. Very astute of you.

[Ham]
But at least I have provided a complete answer to your question...

[Arlo]
HA HA! Where?! Kindly repost your answer and show me, specifically, where your
answers are to the questions above! 

[Ham]
Hopefully, this response will bring our current exchange to a long overdue
close.

[Arlo]
When you get back to me and show me specifically where answers to my questions
are hidden in your reply, then we can bring it to an exchange. I suggest simply
taking your posts and cutting the text and pasting each answer directly below
the question above. Otherwise, Ham, its just fairly obvious you spent another
post seeking to avoid the questions.