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Wonderful!


At 10:39 AM 12/10/2008, you wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV9AwB-DnoI
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>an oldie but goodie
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>From: Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:14:55 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] A fine mess
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>Ron:
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>Science has broken itself out of these bounds during the past century
>so one may say that SOM has already come to the Q realization
>with Quantum physics and theory without the need of any philosophic
>metaphysical restructuring what so ever.
>The problem we seem to be facing is the social acceptance of these new
>intellectual ideas and meanings.
>Western cultures Christianity dominated society is steeped in Platonism and
>Aristotlian analytic
>based on the concept of one and only one truth and only one way to realize
>it.
>This is what we are faced with, the power of peoples faith in the absolute
>and the familier,
>what we offer to them is nihlist, atheist existentialist meanings in their
>eyes.
>Two approaches, do we try to hoodwink them again with absolutes and
>familiarity (SOL)
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>Do we leave it up to the individual pursuit..(MoQ)
>What I sense SOL to be is a kind of "bait and switch " tatic for the masses.
>To wit I say, good luck with the switch part.
>The Quality idea is one that may only be approached by the individual.
>It may not be sold to the masses.
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>Andre:
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>Hi Ron, I keep enjoying your posts. They are well thought out and
>stimulating.
>You end this post on a somewhat depressing note...'It may not be sold to the
>masses'. I believe you are absolutely right. The large majority of people we
>see everyday go to work, do their things, feed their family and relax
>themselves by watching TV at night, have a nice meal, tell a story to their
>children before they go to bed and try to find themselves in something not
>there. They are tired! I have felt this often myself...being tired after a
>hard days (night) work. Why? To pay the bills! Simple as that.
>The SOM reasoning,...the SOM created world. As Sylvia observed: It is just
>like a funeral procession.
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>I am overjoyed that I found this Discuss! I am overjoyed I found Pirsig (
>ZMM given to me by a friend in 1986 while I was in the process of bying a
>motorbike).
>I have learnt not to feel responsible for the masses nor having any
>illusions about capabilities of said masses. It absorbes energy and it will
>destroy you.
>Pirsig is correct: this MoQ 'idea' has found root, we are the pioneers,but
>we should not expect general acceptance overnight. Sometimes this idea
>hammers for years, sometimes centuries, and then, when one or two people
>pick it up, they may convince more people who have to hammer for years and
>decades and sometimes centuries until the conditions are right and...voila.
>The problem with S/O thinking is that it was airtight. With quantum physics
>the tightness is beginning to dissolve. Thing is; are we going to mop up, be
>a guide along this process, or are we going to lead the way?
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>For what it is worth
>Andre
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