[MD] The Myth of Reason

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Hello Marsha,
Reason and materialism are myths.

The myth of truth overshadowed the myth of excellence. But lets be certain,

"A myth is a sacred narrative in the sense that it holds special
significance for those who tell it, and it contributes to and expresses systems 
of thought and values. Use of the term by scholars implies neither the truth 
nor the falseness of the narrative. To the source culture, however, a myth by 
definition is "true," in that it embodies beliefs, concepts, and ways of 
questioning and making sense of the world."





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From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:34:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Myth of Reason


Hi Ron,

I still don't get where you are coming from.  You've gathered 
together a different set of patterns.  From reading what you've 
written, there is much left out.  It's probably on your mind.  Or at 
least, it's not on my mind.  This is not really a problem.  Read 
recently the journey is the destination.  But if you have the 
patience to expand a little more, I might get it and you might go 
deeper.  It's up to you.  You obviously have given this a lot of 
consideration.  But maybe I'm so charmed by these translucent 
patterns, that for me this is not the time for logic.

I wanted to you to know I am interested.


Marsha



At 09:09 AM 12/11/2008, you wrote:
>Hello Marsha,
>It is of my opinion "IS" has the place of defining the concept of entity.
>I've thought long and hard about "entity", Plato called it form,
>Heraticlus Logos. The common understanding we share, as a culture
>and as human patterns.
>
>Whats really interesting is how I see the modern western struggle of 
>materialism and rationalism
>really representing the difference in defining entity in the way 
>that Plato and Aristotle
>commonly represent. Material form vs rational form that both rest on 
>the concept of
>entity-ship as what "is".
>
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>________________________________
>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:24:58 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] The Myth of Reason
>
>
>
>Greetings Ron,
>
>I've read your essay, but I did not understand what exactly you were
>getting at.  And this post, too, leaves me puzzled.  I'm in the
>pattern mode of exploration, and maybe that's inhibiting my
>understanding.  From your title, I do think I agree with you.  I have
>settled on inductive and deductive logic as useful tools.  Not sure
>about 'is'.  Is it somehow like the scalpel in carving up reality?
>
>Marsha
>
>
>
>At 03:53 PM 12/9/2008, you wrote:
> >To all,
> >In my essay "the function of form" I trace the origins of SOM
> >To the Hebrew word "is" and how it effected Greek thought.
> >In it I state that Parmenides concluded that "is" or being or
> >awareness, always was. That logos, the common understanding,
> >the abstract, always existed.
> >Plato argued that logos was form. Aristotle maintained that it
> >was the arguement from the particular experience to a universal
> >understanding.
> >Logos is the root word of logic. Logos in christianity was made flesh
> >and worshiped as God.
> >Parmenides maintained that the only way to realize truth was through
> >abstract thought, through reason.
> >Logos is the pivotal Greek ideal that wrought SOM.
> >The worship of logic as God
> >
> >Heraclitus popularized the word and as I believe was often misunderstood.
> >Heraclitus proclaimed that the world was constatnly in flux and that
> >only through
> >the abstract universal understanding of things may any sort of order
> >be derived.
> >He stated:
> >"all things come to pass in accordance with this word" and "the word
> >is common."
> >It is "the account which governs the universe (ta hola, the whole)."
> >
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>Shoot for the moon.  Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars..........
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