[MD] The SOM/MOQ discrepancy.

kieffer odigaunt kieffer.odigaunt at googlemail.com
Thu Dec 11 07:53:54 PST 2008


Perhaps Ham is closer to a deist - a God or fundamental particle that does
its bit and then sits back while the universe unfolds - no dogma, no
religion.

-KO

2008/12/9 Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>

> [Steve]
> Arlo has been portraying you as a theist. Do you see yourself as a theist?
>
> [Arlo]
> To be fair, I have given Ham every opportunity to explain how this thesis
> is not Theism. While he may deny the label (or else find the courage to
> embrace it), there is little doubt that the logical end of his thesis is
> Theism. In that sense, he wants his cake and he wants to eat it to. He wants
> espouse "theism" without the messy "theism" label. So whatever Ham says
> about his acceptance or denial of that label, I think its better to look at
> what he actually says. The questions I've been asking him (and he's been
> evading) reveal plenty.
>
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