[MD] The SOM/MOQ discrepancy.

craigerb at comcast.net craigerb at comcast.net
Fri Dec 12 11:07:29 PST 2008


[Ham]
> All logicial propositions are based on the relational
> system we call existence.

[Craig, previously]
> Isn't this the role of EMPIRICAL propositions?

[Ham]
> Except for A = A, all propositions depend on relational premises.

Let's recap (as Arlo would say).
You said: all LOGICAL propositions are based on the relational
system we call existence.
I said: EMPIRICAL propositions.
You replied: ALL propositions, EXCEPT (drum roll) a LOGICAL
proposition (A=A).
Your position is confusing.

[Ham]
> scientists and geneticists...explain the 
> process [of consciousness] in terms of biological evolution.
> But that's "cause-and-effect" 
> process, the experiential worldview of empiricism, not philosophy.

Yes, consciousness must be explained as an experience.  How else?
Craig





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