[MD] The SOM/MOQ discrepancy.
MarshaV
marshalz at charter.net
Sat Dec 13 06:46:00 PST 2008
At 09:31 AM 12/13/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Marsha,
>
>[Marsha]
> > > > Maybe, but Buddha isn't an entity.
>
>[Platt]
> > >What would you say Buddha is? A big self? A hallucination?
>
>[Marsha]
> > If I had to guess, I'd say the Buddha is a collection of knowledge.
>
>To me a collection of knowledge would be a library. But I tend to be
>literal. For instance, abstract art has no appeal for me.
Not a collection of intellectual patterns, but a wisdom beyond. It
is knowledge gleaned from no knowledge. It is the truth realized
when something is shown to be false.
>[Platt]
> > > > >That the individual holds a high place in the Pirsig's philosophy
> > is
> > > > >evidenced by his writing in ZAMM: "My personal feeling is this is
> > how
> > > > >further improvement in the world will be done: by individuals
> > making
> > > > >Quality decisions, and that's all."
> > > > >
> > > > >What do you think?
>
>[Marsha]
> > > > Without defining precisely what the individual is or isn't, I think
> > > > 'Three cheers for Quality decisions!!!'
>
>[Platt]
> > >Isn't someone like you, me or other human individual needed to make
> > Quality
> > >decisions in response to Dynamic Quality?
>
>[Marsha]
> > An individual, a self, is an ever-changing, collection of
> > interrelated and interconnected, inorganic, biological, social and
> > intellectual, static patterns of value responding to Dynamic
> > Quality. I wouldn't use the word 'needed'.
>
>Agree. An individual, a self, is no illusion. Your description matches
>Pirsig's perfectly."It's possible to see Lila as something much greater
>than a customary sociological or anthropological description would have her
>be. Lila then becomes a complex ecology of patterns moving toward Dynamic
>Quality. Lila individually, herself, is in an evolutionary battle against
>the static patterns of her own life." (Lila, 29)
>
> I think "decisions" presupposes (needs) an individual "decider."
You are correct. I got caught in the lingo tango. I only meant to
cheer for the dynamic response.
>Always a pleasure, Marsha
Yes, it's a pleasure.
Marsha
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Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.........
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