[MD] Reap the whirlwind

Platt Holden plattholden at gmail.com
Sun Dec 14 07:00:02 PST 2008


Paco,

[Paco]
> The capitalist, the monopolist specially, (or capitalist class) cannot
> respond to DQ because he/she is hostage to the inorganic value of, not
> private property in general, but of private ownership of the means of
> production.

Could you explain how private ownership of the means of production is an 
inorganic value like atoms, chemicals, gravity, etc.?   

> The authentic socialist (read: ethically remolded, motivated
> proletariat, willing to help liberate all classes to liberate itself ) is
> open to DQ because he/she is pulled up by high quality social values.
> His/her economic base is free (not forced by the State or any political
> party) collective ownership of the means of the production (my toothbrush
> is mine) and shared surplus value. Then there are high quality socialist
> values and vision  that call to personal and class transcendence). This is
> theory of course; historical praxis leaves much to be desired. But hope in
> a genuine ethical socialism is alive. 

Could you explain how your ideal society is different from a hippie 
commune? 

> As the Master put it: The Kingdom is
> among you. is in you.

Agree. Art is a reflection of the spirit (light) within us. 

Platt


> --- On Sat, 12/13/08, Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paco,
> 
> Welcome. 
> 
> Capitalism (free markets) is an economic philosophy built upon the 
> principles of individualism (personal liberty) and private property as 
> opposed to socialism (central planning) based on group identities and 
> collective ownership. It's the former, not the latter, that encourages 
> responses to DQ. 
> 
> Looking forward to your thoughts on this and other subjects.
> 
> Platt
> 
> 
> 
> > I think that the problem is that advocates of capitalism and so-called
> > socialism that collapsed but is still existing in China
> ("socialism" that
> > is socialist in form but capitalist in essence, really) fail to
> > realize that it is the people that are the principal bearers, the
> > channels, of Dynamic Quality. (Defintely not any political party.)
> >  
> > Paco (Albano)
> > Newly enrolled. 




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