[MD] dharma

[Dwaipayan Lahiri]

> I don't know if it is the same as Neti Neti.
>
> Not and not not?
>
> "... A body of merit, Subhuti, a 'body of merit' is spoken of by  
> the Tathagata as no body.  Thus is it called a 'body of merit.'  If  
> there were a body of merit, the Tathagata would not have spoken of  
> a body of merit as a body of merit.'"
>
> This logic has been repeated several times.  It's like having  
> something on the tip of my tongue but not in mind.    It is  
> taunting me.  I know this, but cannot understand it.
>
> I know I am not making any sense.  Sorry.
>
> Thank you for responding Dwai.
>
> Wonderful Medha Art Gallery!!!
>


Ah I see...Not and Not not...it IS a tricky thing.

Is the Tao Empty or Not Empty. Is it Not Not Empty or Not Full?

Like that perhaps?
Glad you liked the Art Gallery...hope to attract more artists.



Dwai Lahiri
http://www.medhajournal.com





On Dec 18, 2008, at 9:54 AM, MarshaV wrote:

> At 10:23 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote:
>> Literally translated, Dharma is "Dhr" and "ma", meaning to Uphold the
>> Source (Ma == Mother == Source). What is that source? The source of
>> everything. So, Dharma is the "The Way" (like Tao) that upholds the
>> Source. And everything in this Universe is defined by Whether it is
>> adherence with that or not.
>>
>> Not and Not -- I assume you are talking about Neti Neti.
>> That is a tool of inquiry used in the Classical Indian schools of
>> Darsana (or Philosophy). The purpose of this inquiry starts with a
>> simple question, with negation of possible answers:
>>
>> Who am I? Am I this body that is typing on this keyboard? Am I the
>> one who is eating this bagel on a cold winter morning? and so on.
>> The answer comes "I am not this body, but in this body". I am not
>> eating the Bagel, this body is eating the bagel for sustenance. Then
>> who am I?
>
> I don't know if it is the same as Neti Neti.
>
> Not and not not?
>
> "... A body of merit, Subhuti, a 'body of merit' is spoken of by  
> the Tathagata as no body.  Thus is it called a 'body of merit.'  If  
> there were a body of merit, the Tathagata would not have spoken of  
> a body of merit as a body of merit.'"
>
> This logic has been repeated several times.  It's like having  
> something on the tip of my tongue but not in mind.    It is  
> taunting me.  I know this, but cannot understand it.
>
> I know I am not making any sense.  Sorry.
>
> Thank you for responding Dwai.
>
> Wonderful Medha Art Gallery!!!
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> Marsha, you know i don't dissagree with the not and not not - and
>>> other
>>> shores - is too obfuscated for me - maybe because they cannot see  
>>> the
>>> evolutionary picture and must always depend on allegory and  
>>> metaphor.
>>
>>
>> KO,
>>
>> There are things that trascend the simplistic world-view that
>> everything can be understood by reason and logic. The allegory,
>> parables and metaphors of the East are like the Finger pointing to
>> the Full Moon. Look at the finger and you'll miss all the beauty and
>> the experience of the moon.
>>
>> Dwai Lahiri
>> http://www.medhajournal.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2008, at 3:10 AM, kieffer odigaunt wrote:
>>
>>> Marsha, you know i don't dissagree with the not and not not - and
>>> other
>>> shores - is too obfuscated for me - maybe because they cannot see  
>>> the
>>> evolutionary picture and must always depend on allegory and  
>>> metaphor.
>>>
>>> -KO
>>>
>>> 2008/12/18 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keith,
>>>>
>>>> and patterns...   It's the 'not and not not' that has me twisted.
>>>> I can
>>>> see it as clear as ..., but see nothing.  I read the words and
>>>> they fall
>>>> through me.  Perhaps it's time to paint.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 04:02 AM 12/18/2008, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>>
>>>>> teaching and entities of the mind - i see a strong connection
>>>>> with the
>>>>> idea
>>>>> of memes
>>>>>
>>>>> -KO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/12/18 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dharma:  "A Sanskrit word that means "what is real," whether an
>>>>>> object,
>>>>> an
>>>>>> event, or a teaching.  In the Abhidharma school, the term is
>>>>>> applied to
>>>>>> entities of the mind."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not and not not, and I am skipping like a scratched 45-rpm  
>>>>>> record.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
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>>>>> stars.........
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