[MD] Dynamic within static.

[X Acto]

Bo had said:
And here MOQ's "carbon as DQ's vehicle to biology" have great clout, 
but Pirsig goes on as if each biological "improvement" was a dynamic 
victory over stability, but  now that Q-evolution had moved to biology 
any victory  must have been victory over BIOLOGICAL stability, and 
that doesn't sound right. Once the biological ground-rules were 
established these evolved more complex organisms until one was 
complex enough to serve for a vehicle to the social level.

At least this is how things look to me at the present time, if anyone has 
a different view I would like to hear it.  




The Brujo story is about how the "static" Zuñi society was altered - 
dynamically according to Pirsig - my tentative objection is if every 
increment within the social level is due to a dynamic intervention, how 
did the Q-evolution ever escape the social level  .... or ever escape the  
inorganic level for that matter? Life would merely be ever more 
dynamic inorganic patterns. No? 

I'm not insisting, just want to examine this aspect.

Ron:
Interesting points Bo and I agree with your outlook.
If any idea accurately describes evolution in MoQ terms
it is the increasing complexity of Dynamic Quality.
 It's almost as if it operates in the opposite
direction of what Pirsig posits, that DQ strives
against it's nature toward static quality..
Making a possible definition of another static level
the permanence of ideas, the universal common
understanding. That which is fixed in a realm of 
dynamic flux.
Heraclitus made some very astounding statements
about this topic. He was known for being obscure.
Obviously Parmenides was influenced by him and
expanded upon his statements. He noted that we see
permanence in change and stated that the only
permanace was change itself.
What we know as "a river" (singular) universal.
Is a plurality of expereinces constantly in flux.

causes one to make the conjecture:

Thus the abstract fortress of SOM was built,
this kingdom of heaven, perfect of form.
Created by the logos and which may only be reached
through reason.

An interesting interpretation.








    









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