[MD] CBC Ideas: Homo (Sapiens) Neanderthalensis & etc.

[MarshaV]

Mel,

Of course, but only if I may someday read the story.


Marsha




At 11:53 AM 12/26/2008, you wrote:
>Marsha,
>
>May I borrow your question:
>"Do you think people are only capable of changing t
>heir point-of-view if they are suffering?" for a story I
>am writing?
>
>thanks--mel
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MarshaV" <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 2:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] CBC Ideas: Homo (Sapiens) Neanderthalensis & etc.
>
>
> > At 02:51 AM 12/26/2008, you wrote:
> > >Dear All
> > >
> > >Marsha said 25 Dec.
> > >
> > > > This is a two-part series that runs November through December.  This
> > > > is a very interesting program, and I liked very much the way it was
> > > > presented.  As a podcast it can be downloaded at the website, or it
> > > > can be gotten from iTune subscribe.
> > >
> > > > http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/features/neanderthals/index.html
> > >
> > >Interesting, but what's the bearing on the MOQ? We know about the
> > >Neanderthals.
> >
> > Greetings Bo,
> >
> > Seemed to me the point of the program was that we don't know about
> > the Neanderthals.  Science thought one thing.  Then, new evidence was
> > found, and now then tend to think something quite different.  In
> > fact, it was stated that the real story would probably never be
> > known.  Ahhhh. There it is.
> >
> > My interest in the MOQ has taken a different direction.  I'm
> > interested in the nature of patterns.  The nature of what is
> > mistakenly thought of as an independent self.  All patterns, for me,
> > have turned out to be interrelated, interconnected, ever-changing
> > concepts.  No independent things.  Only conceptual ideas (static
> > patterns of value) overlaid onto dynamic quality.  For me, ALL spovs
> > are conceptual patterns.  Categorizing patterns as inorganic,
> > biological, social and intellectual is a helpful tool, but not the
> > important aspect of this new point-of-view.
> >
> > Science often seems very arrogant and stupid.  What thrilled me about
> > this program was an acknowledgement that what was known has
> > changed.  Suddenly something so small seems very hopeful.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Did you happen to listen to the interview with Eric Fischl?   Do you
> > think people are only capable of changing their point-of-view if they
> > are suffering?  And it is for the artist to show them and make them
> > experience their suffering?  This seems to be a serious question.  Or
> > maybe not  Some would say to just paint.  -   Maybe you think change
> > happens when it becomes rational to do so?
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >There surely were other humanoid races around the
> > >globe before the Cro Magnons (with their "modern" neocortex brain)
> > >closed the "window of opportunity" for the other. At least no
>full-fledged
> > >Homo Sapiens suddenly emerged, there were hundred of thousands
> > >of years - millions possibly - before the said humanoid type had
> > >evolved (the biological level's internal evolution) and from then on
> > >scores of millennia before the social level emerged from the said Cro
> > >Magnon's biology (their intelligence IMO)
> > >
> > >By the way, I recently bought a history magazine that brought an article
> > >on the Greek thinkers and started with saying "The philosophers and
> > >scientists of antiquity were the first who tried to explain the world
> > >through reason and logical conclusions. From Thales to Archimedes
> > >they rejected their contemporary religious dogmas and shook their
> > >heads at anything not rational .(snip) .. laid down the fundaments for
> > >all scientific research and the modern Western culture and our time's
> > >democracy" (translated from Norwegian) I've never seen what
> > >happened in Greece presented so close to Pirsig's in ZAMM before.
> > >
> > >Bo
> >




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life, my consciousness of belonging to the invisible community of 
those who strive for truth, beauty and justice has preserved me from 
feeling isolated.
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