[MD] intellectually free but socially conservative?

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi David M.

On 2 Feb. u wrote:

> I wonder as the 4th level needs to have the 3rd level
> to exist would it be possible to have an intellectually
> free, rich and open 4th level with a socially conservative
> 3rd level? 

What a strange question!  Much like asking if a free biological level 
would be possible with an inorganically "conservative" first. level? All 
static levels are conservative - that's their very purpose - and resist all 
efforts to escape their "gravity field". But existence's dynamic 
component never gives up so new levels grew out of the former.

To your question. It's a MOQ tenet that the upper levels aren't free, but 
have their roots in the former, this goes for intellect too and in LILA 
Pirsig accuses science and/or knowledge of having forgotten their 
social roots and falsely believing themselves to be "free, rich and 
open". 

The reason for Pirsig not using the term "intellect" here is to avoid the 
SOL, he wanted intellect to be "open" to the MOQ and thus realize its 
social roots. This was a mistake. If the MOQ is an intellectual pattern it 
must have social roots too, and that is hasn't, it has intellectual roots - 
SOM roots - and these are behind your question. "Intellectually free" in 
your lingo means that one's thoughts are free . 

But there isn't freedom within the static range. At the social level 
"thoughts" are limited to the various social patterns, at the intellectual 
to the intellectual patterns - among those that of a "free, rich and open" 
mind that can contain all kinds of ideas. And when this mind is made 
into MOQ's 4th level, it (the MOQ) has become an "intellectual pattern" 
- a SOM pattern - and nothing is gained. .

IMO

Bo