[MD] MOQ Levels

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Steve

5 Feb. you wrote:

Pirsig:
> >    Flattery will get you nowhere  ;-)  I suspect you want to 
> >    hear that what is "conspicuously absent" is SOM, but I am 
> >    not sure that SOM was absent in early Biblical times since 
> >    early social statements such as "Beware of the crocodile!" 
> >    or "Javeh will reward you," are SOM but are not 
> >    intellectual in the MOQ sense.  
 
Steve:
> I disagree that these statements are SOM. I can't see how these
> statements presuppose subjective/objective knowledge distinctions

Right, at least you agree with me that the subject/object 
distinction is something more than (biological) self/not self and 
the (social) observing person as different from the dangerous 
crocodile. Pirsig then adds: "..but not intellectual in the MOQ 
sense". To me it sounds as if he here means the real SOM, the 
one described in ZAMM. But if so why not say "... not SOM in the 
intellectual sense"?  Possibly because that would be affirming the 
SOL. 

Well, what's your conclusion? Doesn't it look as if the SOL 
interpretation is behind Pirsig's MOQ. I mean something to be 
deduced from it? 

Bo