[MD] MOQ levels

[Magnus Berg]

Hej Christoffer

Can't say for sure but I think you're the first Swede here besides me, at least 
for a very long time.

Christoffer Ivarsson wrote:
> Se, here is the problem.  After considering Bodvars arguments about SOM 
> being the  intellectual level I thought about the thoughts that was before 
> that, and if they could be "thoughts of the social level". I'm not sure yes, 
> but It seems they could from where I stand now.
> 
>  For if thoughts as such is present before the emergence of the forth 
> level - and we know they where, as indeed thoughts is a function of the 
> brain - a static biological pattern - the way the capacity of thought is 
> used is determined of what level is currently in control (as well of course 
> of the level of evolution the said brain is at) then the function of the 
> brain, the thoughts could at a given moment be totally controlled by the 
> social level and the brain interpret everything is registers from the frame 
> of reference of the social level  - if that level was all that was around. 
> The thoughts would then be, I guess, biological and social reactions and 
> interpretations of DQ.

You're getting there, just forget for a moment what others have been saying 
about *when* the 4th level emerged.

There's a difference between:

1. "When did the first 4th level pattern emerge?"

... and ...

2. "When did 4th level arguments start having an impact on human civilization?"

Question 1 deals with the metaphysical construction of our universe. What kinds 
of stuff is our universe made of?

Question 2 deals with human history. It presumes a human civilization and 
discusses how a metaphysics can be applied to human thinking and interaction, a 
fascinating subject I'm sure but not what we should be talking about here.

	Magnus