[MD] MOQ Levels

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

Ian and Steve

>The levels need to make enough sense as distinct things, in order for
>a description of the world in their terms to make sense. So we are
>right to debate what each distinct level means.

>1/2 and 2/3 seem clear enough. The debate about the distinction
>between levels 3 & 4 remains. SOMism and symbolic manipulation do not
>seem to be limited to either (3) social or (4) intellectual levels
>exclusively. (something like "authority" and "freedom of thought" seem
>to be clearer distinguishing features - though socio-cultural factors
>complicate what passes for free thinking rationale ... has always been
>my argument against Bo.)

>No idea if that helps ?
>Ian

It does help, just as you point out "symbolic manipulation do not
seem to be limited to either (3) social or (4) intellectual levels
exclusively" the reason I am inclined to like the SOL is because it seems a 
good tool to use, but please, elaborate on your idea about freedom and 
authority, it sounds interesting

Steve:

Just wanted to say that you have a valid point there. (in your post about 
creating reality) That's all I have had time to conclude for now, =)


Regards

Chris