[MD] MOQ Levels

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

Heather


> Chris:
>> This is not advocating the SOM, this is not
>> going back to a preZMM
>> understanding, it is just making the MOQ run more
>> smoothly.
>
> SA:  Bo doesn't know what the moq does (his meta-level
> moq above his 4th level).  I've asked him before.  No
> answer.  Marsha recently asked him.  No answer.  So,
> Bo goes on intellectualizing the world as s's and o's.
> Rationalizing s's and o's, and thus, what's so
> different from this kind of thinking of the world and
> SOM, nothing.  SOM is not just a reality, it's a
> reality based on a kind of thinking.  SOM is a way to
> philosophy about how the world is, thus, in SOM the
> world is about a subject separating him/her self from
> objects.  This is all fine and useful, but I don't
> find this 'separation' to be the only way to
> understand the world.  What about a good poem where
> we're not concentrating on trying to divide up the
> world between us's and them's/pure black and pure
> white/I and everything else.  To plainly separate the
> world this way is and to take this as the only way to
> intellectualize is shallow and narrrow.  What about
> beautiful paintings?

A poem.. Yes. Good point. I have often compared the MOQ to a poem, it's 
beauty anyway.
So where does a poem belong in a MOQ universe? Yes, good question. I'd call 
upon Bo to answer this,
And now I have to go to hear about 19th century Russia =)

Regards

Chris