[MD] MOQ levels

[ian glendinning]

BTW MoQ'ers should find last week's "Thinking Allowed" interesting on
arts and crafts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/thinkingallowed/thinkingallowed_20080206.shtml

Craft as relationship with the material.
Absence of craft in art, due to "overprivelidging of the idea" in art.

Regards
Ian

On 2/12/08, ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com> wrote:
> David, you asked,
>
> > well, .... is art intellectual or social?
>
> Yes.
>
> Notwithstanding the evolution of the word art itself (craft,
> technique, any word with "rt" in it basically, etc - Pirsig expends
> many words on this.)
>
> But even art (for art's sake, and art to express and communicate some
> specific emotions or thoughts) involves patterns from both extremes
> - created within accepted styles / conventions / media (social)
> - created to push free of those bounds - either primarily or as well
> as the other communication objectives (intellectual)
>
> As soon as we document, analyse, codify those artistic patterns we
> move even the expressive / participatory forms in to the intellectual
> level. But at root, the art itself can be largely social, and often
> is.
>
> Ian
>