[MD] MOQ levels

[ian glendinning]

Actually there is even more for Pirsigians in that edition too.

A romantic rejection of machines & technology in human interaction
with the world.
And ..
Quoting Baggini, on the "that'll do" culture - an emprical utility
that ignores "quality".

Ian

On 2/13/08, ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW MoQ'ers should find last week's "Thinking Allowed" interesting on
> arts and crafts.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/thinkingallowed/thinkingallowed_20080206.shtml
>
> Craft as relationship with the material.
> Absence of craft in art, due to "overprivelidging of the idea" in art.
>
> Regards
> Ian
>
> On 2/12/08, ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com> wrote:
> > David, you asked,
> >
> > > well, .... is art intellectual or social?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Notwithstanding the evolution of the word art itself (craft,
> > technique, any word with "rt" in it basically, etc - Pirsig expends
> > many words on this.)
> >
> > But even art (for art's sake, and art to express and communicate some
> > specific emotions or thoughts) involves patterns from both extremes
> > - created within accepted styles / conventions / media (social)
> > - created to push free of those bounds - either primarily or as well
> > as the other communication objectives (intellectual)
> >
> > As soon as we document, analyse, codify those artistic patterns we
> > move even the expressive / participatory forms in to the intellectual
> > level. But at root, the art itself can be largely social, and often
> > is.
> >
> > Ian
> >
>