[MD] When is a pattern not static?
Ham Priday
hampday1 at verizon.net
Wed Feb 13 10:01:03 PST 2008
DMB, Chris, Steve, Bo, and all MoQists --
This may be a silly question, and I know it's been discussed before, but I
have always been confused about Pirsig's use of "static" for S/O patterns
and "dynamic" for the Quality that supports them. And I suspect that I'm
not alone in this confusion. I've been told that DQ is dynamic because it
gives rise to patterns (or at least encompasses them), but that doesn't seem
to properly describe the unchanging foundational Quality, or the fact that
most patterns are experienced as changing or evolving in some away.
For example, Chris has stated (correctly, I think, by MoQ standards):
> A ROCK - From a MOQ perspective...is a static inorganic pattern.
> It may also be used as an expression of social values depending on
> how it is used, and if the intellectual level is to look at a rock it
> would
> be - a rock, an object made up of matter. Whatever matter is ^__^
Marsha:
> A rock is first of all a static pattern of value.
If a rock is a static pattern of value, is a meteor (also a rock) that
flashes across the sky a static pattern? You folks call Biology a level,
rather than a pattern. But is the biological process by which a fertilized
cell multiplies, differentiates and becomes a living organism a static
pattern? Or are the the sperm cell, the egg, the embryo. the fetus, and the
infant each a separate pattern?
In other words, when does a pattern begin (from a level), and are there any
patterns that may be regarded as dynamic? It seems to me that everything
that exists is in some state of flux, moving from simple to complex, or
evolving from the lowest (inorganic) to the highest (intellectual) level.
If S/O reality is constantly changing, why are its components not dynamic?
Tangential to this is another question. Chris suggested above that social
values may also be patterns. If this is true, does it mean that moral
precepts or emotional feelings like Awareness, Freedom, Love, Justice, and
Fear are social or intellectual patterns? Are these "intermediate states"
of recognized patterns, or are they only myths abstracted from Quality?
I'm not being critical; I simply need to understand the dynamics of this
hierarchy as a logical ontology. (If, indeed, "dynamics" is the correct
word.)
Thanks for your help.
--Ham
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