[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Wed Feb 20 11:51:35 PST 2008
Quoting Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu>:
> [Platt]
> But if you believe in the supreme value of the state, you can't
> believe in the supreme value of God. If you believe in state
> supremacy you are likely to also be an atheist.
>
> [Arlo]
> Not according to the Monarchs and Theocrats who viewed, historically,
> the Supreme Value of the State to be the manifest reality of God's
> Will. I seem to recall the "Holy Roman Empire" being quite a profound
> example of believing combining God and state. I also seem to recall
> Europe's monarchs for the better part of Western History to have no
> problem conflating the Supremacy of God with the Supremacy of The
> State, sacrificing and executing dissidents towards the state in the
> name of God.
>
> As I said, this attempt by "religion" to latch onto secular
> enlightenment's ideas of "freedom" is naught but a pathetic attempt
> by a castrated dogma to align itself with the philosophy that caused
> its demise.
If you want to go back to ancient history, be my guest. Most are more
interested in the last 100 years.
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