[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

Chris
>> It is not communism that has done this, as you well know. When it comes 
>> to
>> Russia it is just a continuing theme that the Russian rulers have been on
>> since the fall of East-Rome, and in other cases it is pretty much the 
>> same
>> thing - nowhere has there been a grand scale communist rule, as it is
>> described by Marx and Engels, but a lot of variations of Leninism (which 
>> is
>> NOT communism as such)  have been twisted and built into older ruler
>> traditions of whatever country it has manifested itself.  It is not
>> communism itself that has caused this, but rather catastrophic
>> interpretations of it and plain old Mad Rulers.
>>
>> Furthermore - Nationalism and Communism was never intended to be 
>> combined,
>> that is also a corruption of the original thoughts.


You
> How about China, North Korea, Cambodia, and Cuba? All "catastrophic
> interpretations" of sweet, benign Marx and Engels communism?
>
Chris:
Umh, In a way yes. I don't have time to go into it right now, but the 
Chinese interpretation of LENINISM has been suited for China, following it's 
more than 3000 year old history of a hierarchical society,  In Cambodia it 
was tried to return to "Original communism" I.e. to reverse the historical 
development (try to find support for THAT in Marx and Engels texts) North 
Korea is just plain old military dictatorship, something that Cuba is a 
slightly lighter version of - and even if some Leninists would argue that 
Cuba has come further than any other communist attempt it is still mingled 
with nationalism and as such it is not real Communism.