[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com>:

> Platt
> 
> "said the intellectual was better, more moral
> than the social level. Arlo said I was wrong."
> 
> That is patently a lie.

What is? That intellect was better, more moral than the social level? Or that
Arlo said I was wrong?

Clarity is not your strong point. 

> As I say I'm done, and I think Arlo is too.

One can only hope. 

 
> On 2/21/08, pholden at davtv.com <pholden at davtv.com> wrote:
> > Quoting ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Platt,
> > >
> > > Pack it in you imbecile. Where did Arlo ever say
> > > "Lower and higher forms of life are equal." ?
> >
> > Ian: Give it up you jerk. I said the intellectual was better, more moral
> > than the social level. Arlo said I was wrong. So I quoted Pirsig to the
> contrary.
> > Where's your brain?
> >
> > > YOU ARE IGNORANT by definition, and in a very long-lived static kind of way
> too.
> > > What is the point of anyone responding to you ?
> > > That was fun (not).
> > > Ian
> > > PS having already questioned Arlo and others for even bothering to
> > > debate with you, normal service will be resumed, after half a day's
> > > aberration.
> >
> > You keep promising. Your promises are as good as your intelligence.
> >
> > > On 2/21/08, Platt Holden <pholden at davtv.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > [Platt]
> > > > > The intellectual (individual) level is better than the social
> > > > > (collective) level.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Arlo]
> > > > > I'm not talking about Platt's neocon MOQ, nor do I have any desire
> > > > > to, I'm talking about Pirsig's.
> > > >
> > > > Let's talk Pirsig's MOQ:
> > > >
> > > > "But what he saw at this point was a social pattern of -values, a film,
> > > > devouring an intellectual pattern of values, his book. It would be a lower
> > > > form of life feeding upon a higher form of life. As such it would be
> > > > immoral. And that's exactly how it felt: immoral." (Lila, 20).
> > > >
> > > > For Arlo, lower and higher forms of life are equal. Comical.
> > > >
> > > > > [Platt]
> > > > > If all was balanced, there would be no evolution.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Arlo]
> > > > > Wrong. It is balance (not stasis) that allows evolution. Without it,
> > > > > new directions would not latch on one hand, and on the other there
> > > > > would be no new directions.
> > > >
> > > > Balance implies stasis -- physical equilibrium.
> >
> >


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