[MD] The birth of subjects and objects

[David M]

Hi Ham



> David (Part 2 of Ham's response to the Pirsig quote) --
>
> Pirsig describes the pressure, sound, warmth, and hunger which stimulate 
> the
> fetus as a "generalized something", and he borrows James's term "dim
> apprehension" to introduce these stimuli as Dynamic Quality.  Totally
> missing from this description is the word "feeling", and we are left with
> the concept of a human organism whose "attention [is] compelled" by
> stimulation of a vague otherness.
>


DM: This is wrong because it fails to see what the use of the term quality 
implies.
Quality implies feeling, we do not begin by experiencing abstract qualities 
like blue,
we experience engaged qualities that always have a felt meaning for 
us.Experience
is always of qualities that are more or less experienced as better or worse 
compared
to other qualities, even indifference is an aspect of experienced quality. 
We notice
the various qualities of our experience because they are aspects of change 
DQ or
re-cognition SQ.