[MD] Politics

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Craig, Ron, All.

On 25 February:

Craig originally:
> > Ron's view that Hitler was moral & Chris's view that censorship in a
> > democracy is right, should not go unchallenged.  Otherwise, it is
> > the death knell of the MoQ.
 
Bo:
> > Why do you, Craig, regard this as the end of the MOQ?
 
Craig:
> Because if the MoQ leads people to view Hitler as moral & censorship
> as right, without challenge, it will be seen as a low quality
> philosophy.
 
Ron:
> Rightly so Craig, Thank you for picking up on it. 

Bo now:
I did not get my reply to Craig off before Ron's fired (his dud) 
from the hip. Have you guys been sleeping in class? All static 
levels are MORAL levels, the trick is when the next level rose 
from its parent it regarded its origin as evil. The two lower levels 
are so old that we just regard them as a-moral, but the social and 
intellectual levels are still "fighting it out". 

The social level is often seen as morality itself because that 
level's moral is presented as divine commandments. But social 
value are basically duty to the common cause and in Hitler's case 
he managed to make Nazism the said cause, hence the atrocities 
to promote it. But these things only became atrocities (immoral) 
seen from intellect. Had the social level been "all there was" 
Nazism would have written the history and the world would have 
bowed over, but as it were intellect were the rising power (Nazism 
can be seen as social value's "last stand") and USA - fired by 
intellectually moral condemnation - threw itself against the Axis 
powers. (I disregard all war facts here, that USA was attacked 
and declared war upon ...etc.)    

Regarding censorship the Western democracies must naturally 
suppress social-value inspired utterings and ban organization with 
that purpose, this kind of censorship is regarded good from 
intellect and because it is top notch its moral dominates reality. 
And within the MOQ no static level can rise above intellect. Pirsig 
makes it sound as if a "better" metaphysics than the MOQ can 
arrive on the scene, but as Quality is part and parcel of the MOQ 
that will not be a Valuable one .

IMO

Bo