[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality
Arlo Bensinger
ajb102 at psu.edu
Mon Feb 25 12:00:01 PST 2008
[Platt]
No. Lying, cheating, stealing and killing are biological patterns.
[Arlo]
No.
Let's take a closer look, first "stealing". On the biological level,
there is no such thing as stealing. Pirisg refers to a "might makes
right" orientation, but the thing to remember is that when a wolf
takes a leg of lamb from another wolf it is not "stealing" it.
"Property" is a social level pattern. What the wolf does is purely
moral on the biological level.
"Stealing" occurs only when the social pattern of "property" meets
the biological moralness of self-preservation. "Stealing" is not a
biological pattern, it is a moral pronouncement of the superiority of
social codes of property over the biological organism's right to
self-preservation. It is the social level that says the butcher's
"property" is more moral than the man's need to satiate his
hunger."Stealing" is a social level statement of value, not a
biological pattern.
"Lying" is much the same, abeit it far more nuanced that I can get
into here. Simply, it is a moral statement of intellect asserting its
dominance over social patterns. It says that manipulation of facts
(intellectual patterns) to serve social ends (social patterns) is
immoral. But it is NOT a "biological pattern".
"Killing", I might agree with some qualifications, is the result of
intra-level biological conflict, but when we use it here we are
expressing an intellectual level value that the word does not have on
the biological level. Thus, while a wolf may kill another wolf, this
act is not immoral within the biological level. We also (most) do not
see the "killing" of a wolf by a man to be "immoral". And, we also do
not see the "killing" of a man by a wolf to be indicative of "immoral
behavior" on the part of the wolf. As such I think "killing" (in the
sense of man killing another man) is a value expression of the
conflict between intellectual level values and biological and social
level values.
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