[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Ron Kulp <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>:

> > Ron:
> > Why not worse-ness, some things are worse than others.
> > 
> > Is this the same thing? I think he is saying that every
> > Thing that exists demonstrates value processes. Think outside
> > Of what you want him to mean for a second. He also clearly states that
> > man is the measure of value, humans are the decider of good and bad.
> 
> Platt:
> Where does he say that?
> 
> Ron:
> Why do you suppose he states that the intellectual level is the most
> moral
> Static pattern then says to serve morality you must kill all
> intellectual
> Patterns, per your view, isn't this contradictive? 


Hoes does that prove than "man is the measure of value?"
 
> Ron prev:
> > You get so caught up relishing the concept of ultimate good and
> absolute
> > Better-ness that you fail to notice these things, don't be so quick to
> > Be in possession of the ultimate source of judging everything
> > absolutely.
> > You are fooling yourself if you think that's what MoQ advocates.
> 
> 
> Platt:
> You are judging me absolutely. So what's your problem?
> 
> Ron:
> Sorry Platt, I do not mean to appear as if I am making a judgment on
> you,
> I mean to point out inconsistencies in interpretation. Pirsig says
> Intellectual patterns dominating social patterns is moral yet makes a
> An appeal to return to old social norms. That was the problem with the
> hippie movement it did not balance intellectual patterns with social
> Patterns. I see your positions contradicting themselves, if there is
> contradiction then the interpretation must be reviewed.
> If you still hold to the same position after these inconsistencies
> It is a matter of your opinion but it carries with it the stigma
> Of intellectual dishonesty.
> 
> But that is simply my own opinion.

I have no problem with your judging me or anything else. That seems to be
something you object to. I don't. Life is judging one damn thing after another
between the no-judgments of birth and death. But be that as it may, what positions
of mine contradict themselves? I trust you do recognize the self-contradiction
in the belief "There are no absolutes." 





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