[MD] Birth of subjects & objects

[craigerb at comcast.net]

[Ham]
> According to your analysis, Pirsig systemizes two realities as constituting
> the MoQ: the experiential (S/O) and the pre-conceptual (DQ).
I think it would be better to say:  "two ASPECTS OF REALITY as constituting
the MoQ: the CONCEPTUAL EXPERIENCE of S/O (SQ) and the pre-conceptualEXPERIENCE (DQ)."[Ham]> If [DQ] is not a concept, it could not have been conceived.This is a use/mention mistake.  I can conceive of a 5 legged stool, butthat doesn't make it a concept rather than a piece of furniture.  [Ham]> what makes the conceptualized system more "fundamental" than the experienced> system?The pre-conceptual DQ is more fundamental than SQ.Craig