[MD] Where was Quality before Pirsig?

[Steven Peterson]

Hi Ron,


>Ron:
>> Quality, for me, is a mental state. An orientation. An alignment.
>> Once so aligned, intellectual patterns take on new meaning.
>> Yes an intellectual pattern is an intellectual pattern
>> But state of mind is key.
>>
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>Steve:
>If I understand Ron and Bo, you guys are saying that the MOQ is not a  
>mere intellectual pattern, it is a context for thought--a space in  
>which to think. In that sense, the MOQ is a reality or a state of mind.
>
>Ron:
>Context is still intellectual pattern yes, orientation is not. Will and
>intent are involved. MoQ is an intellectual pattern, what it points to
>Is an attitude. Is attitude intellectual pattern or is it the way in
>Which patterns are interpreted?
>
>Steve:
>But if even if it is a space, it is still an intellectual space and  
>thus a collection of static intellectual patterns of value.
>
>Ron:
>What you are saying is that pre-intellectual awareness is still
>static intellectual patterns of value. 

Steve:
I never said that and I disagree, though the concept of pre-intellectual awareness is intellectual. 

Compare the inorganic pattern that we call gravity with the intellectual pattern that is the scientific theory of gravitation.

Ron:
>Thus making pre-intellect,
>dynamic quality and quality itself merely static intellectual patterns
>nothing more. rendering all of these terms null and void within it's own system.

Steve:
As concepts, they are static intellectual patterns of value but they are intended to point beyond intellect.

The MOQ is not reality itself, it is words about reality.

Steve