[MD] Mind-body practice

[skutvik at online.no]

Hello again Dwai 

On 10 Jan. you said (after I had lectured on my understanding of 
the MOQ and ended by declaring:

> > Intellect is not MIND, but the MIND/MATTER divide!
> > (forgive my insistent style, I just try to make you understand, if
> > you agree is another matter)

> I see what you mean. If that is the case, then what is the mind?

Well it sort of follows from the said assertion that mind is nothing 
in itself but part of the mind/matter AGGREGATE - that goes for 
all intellect's dichotomies, you can't have one without the other, 
but intellect as SOM (before it became a static level) has 
succeeded in making us believe that there are two separate 
realms that interact in some mysterious way.

OK, maybe you will accept this generally, but the term 
"consciousness" is (in English at least) a more holier variety of 
mind, seemingly without an "objective" counterpart, but I will 
suggest that the reality (we are conscious of) is the said 
counterpart. The point is that few will admit that intellect has 
created the consciousness/reality duality too. It looks like intellect 
ITSELF.

Consciousness seems to the be stronghold of intellect, it may 
give up its outer defenses, "soul" has long since gone and it may 
admit that there aren't watertight bulkheads between its dualities, 
but the one between consciousness and what it is conscious of 
seems watertight & shockproof. Yet, I have the (following) 
example that proves that consciousness isn't confined to 
humankind the allegedly only conscious being.

Almost all creatures sleep (even fish it's said) so waking up must 
be to state different from oblivion - and animal  consciousness. 
The nineteenth century spoke about a slumber-like state 
regarding animals, but they are much more aware than we need 
to be. 

Then only self-consciousness remains as intellect's innermost 
citadel; the God's-eye view of reality, and self-consciousness IS 
intellect's definition of itself (as SOM) But there is the MOQ 
overview and in it intellect has become a mere static level and 
hasn't got any consciousness (this concept is part of the S/O 
metaphysics) the levels' have only  got static value and intellect's 
is the S/O disdinction - in this case that of a self detached from 
the world it lives in.      

And as you asked:

> I would like to know more about it (the SOL).

The above IS the SOL.

The rest of our exchange will arrive soon.

Till then.

Bo