[MD] The End of Faith

[David M]

Hi Ian

There's always a case for keeping the good bits.
The first moment of secularism is about freedom,
religious freedom and freedom from religious conflict,
wars and persecution. And a turn away from
dogma to experience and reason. All good things.

Thanks
David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ian glendinning" <psybertron at gmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The End of Faith


> Hi DM,
>
> A lot of truth in that, but I would re-phrase ...
>
> GOF Secularism "has traditionally been" such a tool.
>
> Religion is a tool too .. for reminding us that even SOMism /
> SOMist-Science can't (shouldn't / mustn't) ignore values.
>
> Enlightened secularism - eg MoQism - has learned the errors of those
> GOF SOMist / Religious / Idolatrous / Scientific ways.
>
> Ian
> PS for a definition of secularism - see the DMB post, agnosticism (an
> interested, enlightened kind) is the new secularism. Athesism is so
> passe - see Platt for details.
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 11:24 PM, David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi MOQers
>>
>> Know something folks, secularism is a tool for keeping
>> values out of intellectual institutions, and that means
>> keeping the SOM going! Shame on us!
>>
>> Want the full story? read these:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knowledge-Wisdom-Revolution-Science-Humanities/dp/0955224004/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200612240&sr=1-1
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secular-Age-C-Taylor/dp/0674026764/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200612266&sr=1-1
>>
>> Regards
>> David M
>>
>>
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