[MD] mindless metaphysics

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Moqtalk.

On 19 Jan. Spiritual praised Akshay who had written.

> Pirsig's metaphysics does not subscribe to what is usually called the
> "subject-object dichotomy" (especially contexts wherein it renders a
> sharp division between mind and body). 

Sharp or blurred isn't the point rather the MOQ says that reality's 
deepest division is Dynamic/Static NOT Subjective/Objective. Then it 
adopts the former SOM as own value, how this adoption is made is the 
bone of contetion.   

> If we compare the transition from ZAMM to Lila, we see that ZAMM's
> Quality is Lila's DQ.

Exactly, ZAMM's Quality is the DQ of the DQ/SQ dualism, not 
something outside of the MOQ. Had this been realized we would have 
a new metaphysics not merely another more complicated SOM.   

> ZAMM, when referring to Quality, conveys the idea of pure immediate
> experience, to the extent that you can't even use the terms pure,
> immediate and experience, because they tend to pigeonhole Quality to a
> fixed idea, no matter how broadly encompassing it may appear to be.
> Quality is everything and beyond everything. 

Sure, the DQ of the MOQ is beyond everything, no problem with that 
statement or anything else said here. 

IMO

Bo