[MD] Lyceum Movement - Chautauquas

Wed Jan 23 13:53:46 PST 2008

Greetings,

This man and his little red boat was out on the 
lake again on Sunday.  It was 19 
degrees.  Brrrrrrrr.  I was tempted to get out 
the binoculars to see if he was fishing or 
meditating, but that seemed too intrusive.  He 
had to go through a thin layer of ice to leave 
and was having a tough time.  I worried for him, but he made it.

Sorry to go on about this man, but I find him incredible.  Brrrrrrrr.

The lake still is far from frozen.

Marsha

At 10:58 AM 1/23/2008, you wrote:
>Hey Ian, Marsha, and others,
>
>
>Ian:
> > Hi SA, as you say interesting link, and interesting
> > points ... about "natural education".
> > I have that "easy rider" web site link on my own
> > Pirsig Pages where
> > Chautauqua's are referenced. BTW I'll let Henry know
> > he's been quoted
> > in dispatches ... he doesn't often read these mails.
>
>
>SA:  The Lyceum Movements/the Chautauquas, as I'm
>pigeon-holing these events, are intellectual emergents
>amidst the "...the morning sun over wet meadows".  The
>intellect emerges amidst "There has been a man out on
>the lake in a beautiful, little red boat.  He's been
>out there when it's been below freezing, and I saw him
>once chopping through a thin layer of ice.  He was out
>there as recently as this past weekend.  He and his
>red boat make a wonderful image." (to quote Marsha).
>The intellectual emergent is noticed as "...make a
>wonderful image."  One might see other intellectual
>emergents in this quote, too.  And from this
>"wonderful image" of a "man out on the lake", the
>"wonderful image" being intellectual, is a chautauqua
>sprouting.  As the lecturers of these Chautauquas in
>the 19th century, would have intellectually lit-up hay
>fields as the necessary patterns would have been
>established to provide a foundation, a place to stand
>when they talked, a place for the crowd to watch,
>etc... and with these in place we find amidst the
>lecturer intellectual patterns emerging.  Fostered
>amongst  country sides and other venues.  As Henry
>mentioned about Pirsig, "Thus he must fully
>participate with (and report) his surroundings."  And
>from these snowy woods, this chautauqua is reveal,
>with a loud voice for these computers enhance quietly
>given communications very far indeed.
>
>
>thanks.
>
>birds,
>SA
>
>P.S.  I kept the post intact below to keep the
>references for the quotes.
>
>
>
>
> > >     "The Lyceum Movement was a somewhat similar
> > idea
> > > that  preceded the Chautauquas...The Lyceum
> > Movement
> > > gained popularity and it was inextricably linked
> > to
> > > the Transcendentalists;  R.W. Emerson  (one of the
> > > first professional lecturers) gave around 100
> > lectures
> > > at Concord Lyceum and  H.D. Thoreau read his
> > ´Civil
> > > Disobedience´  publicly for the first time at the
> > same
> > > place in 1848." (many others lectured at these
> > > Lyceums/Chautauquas, such as Mark Twain and Thomas
> > > Edison, etc...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>http://www.univie.ac.at/Anglistik/easyrider/data/zen_and_the_art_of_motorcycle_ma.htm
> > >
> > > Additional comments below:
> > >
> > >
> > >    [Marsha]
> > > > The lake is not frozen.  It gets a thin layer of
> > > > ice, but then
> > > > melts.  Actually, last year it never froze.
> > > > Normally there are a
> > > > great number of people ice fishing, on the lake,
> > but
> > > > not last year
> > > > and so far not this year.  There has been a man
> > out
> > > > on the lake in a
> > > > beautiful, little red boat.  He's been out there
> > > > when it's been below
> > > > freezing, and I saw him once chopping through a
> > thin
> > > > layer of
> > > > ice.  He was out there as recently as this past
> > > > weekend.  He and his
> > > > red boat make a wonderful image.
> > >
> > >
> > >   SA previously:  This is the dynamic.  I'm
> > > convinced.  We
> > > haven't parsed all of these components into
> > 'analyzed
> > > parts'.  This is the playing field of primary
> > reality.
> > >
> > >
> > >    SA:  To further elaborate by what I mean, I
> > found
> > > interesting quotes.  One from Henry Gurr (at the
> > > Liverpool Conference) and another from Calvin
> > Martin
> > > (in a book he edited that I'm currently reading
> > called
> > > "The American Indian and the Problem of History")
> > >     From Martin who quotes Vizenor as follows:
> > >     "...energies of the tribes that run like
> > dreams
> > > in a dance with the morning sun over wet meadows."
> > >
> > >
> > >      How I see this, and the quote from Pirsigs'
> > ZMM
> > > will explain this clearly, is first, I'm pointing
> > out
> > > "dreams in a dance".  Dancing "with the morning
> > sun
> > > over wet meadows", dreams dancing with sun and
> > > meadows.  After what I said above to Marsha, I
> > read
> > > this in Martins' book.  Marsha pointed out a
> > dynamic
> > > reality (what she pointed out is found above).
> > What
> > > she said I find to be the, "playing field of
> > primary
> > > reality".  In other words, what she pointed out
> > was
> > > the (to use an analogy) "...morning sun over wet
> > > meadows" where "dreams" "dance".  Then I was
> > reading
> > > some of the Liverpool Conference papers today, and
> > I
> > > was looking at the photos and reading the
> > presentation
> > > by Henry Gurr and I was skimming through his
> > > presentation when I came across this and I quote
> > as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > >     "4) The mentally unstable Narrator says he
> > > depends on "Good old reality". And he repeatedly
> > says
> > > (or implies) that he would "go off the deep-end",
> > > except for the ever present support of the
> > surrounding
> > > ...... and beautiful...... physical world. Thus he
> > > must fully participate with (and report) his
> > > surroundings.
> > >
> > >
> > >     SA continues:  This is where Chautauquas are
> > born
> > > and live.  This is where woods are and in this
> > quiet,
> > > something happens.
> > >     This forum is similar to the old chautauquas
> > > roving across the country where lectures were
> > given
> > > and open to all, now, these lectures shout out
> > from
> > > these places as posts here.
> > >
> > >
> > > ordinary commentary.
> > >
> > > woods,
> > > SA
>
>
> 
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