[MD] S/O and Morality
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Thu Jan 24 12:29:38 PST 2008
Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:
> Platt quotes:
> > Pirsig warned, "The idea that biological crimes can
> > be ended by intellect
> > alone, that you can talk crime to death, doesn't
> > work. Intellectual patterns can
> > not directly control biological patterns. Only
> > social patterns can control
> > biological patterns, and the instrument of
> > conversation between society and
> > biology is not words. The instrument of conversation
> > between society and
> > biology has always been a policeman or a soldier and
> > his gun." (Lila, 24)
>
> SA: The state of PA wants the state to be hands-off
> in dealing with juvenile criminals and delinquents.
> Over the weekend seven incident reports went to the
> state (an automatic policy). The placement facility
> was contacted by the state asking them why so many
> hands-on occurred, and that the placement facility
> needs to stop these hands-on events. All the hands-on
> over the weekend involved residents physically
> attacking staff by punching and jumping on them in
> predation situations where the residents hid or
> rapidly snapped and attacked the staff. The placement
> facility, the administration, said the staff shouldn't
> be doing hands-on in these situations. Their saying
> the staff should be talking to the residents and
> calming them down. Meanwhile the residents are
> laughing and thinking it is fun to do these kinds of
> predation tactics, because they know nothing will
> happen to them. That staff will just sit down with
> them and talk to them about how wrong it is that they
> are doing this after the dust settles. Giving them
> reasons why it's wrong and how they are hurting
> people. Then the next day comes and they do it all
> over again. The administration says the staff needs
> to talk to them when they attack them, and not put
> hands-on. I know if one of those residents come after
> me and try to hurt me, I'm defending myself and doing
> everything I can, physically, to protect myself - are
> they nuts or what!
> The administration says if they do hit staff,
> then they need 302ed, but when I talked to the
> psychiatrist on staff where the resident was being
> 302ed she remembered this same resident from a week or
> two ago, and said she is not crazy and that her
> actions are behavior problems not mentally
> uncontrollable actions. The resident knows exactly
> what's she's doing, but the administration says we
> can't put hands-on her and have to talk to her, and if
> she hits somebody to 302 her. Yet, outside agencies
> are saying she's performing actions that only lead her
> to placement facilities like ours. The system is a
> mess. The administration says when she hits she
> doesn't belong in the placement facility, and the
> outside mental health agencies are saying placement
> facilities like ours are where she belongs because
> she's not mentally unstable. So-where does she
> belong? The mental health lady I talked to on the
> phone said charges should be pressed against the
> resident, which I know could lead her to a lock-down
> juvenile detention center. Yet, the administration
> doesn't want anybody filing charges against residents
> because their afraid outside agencies will come down
> on them. So, what do the staff do in the meanwhile?
> Their supposed to get punched and just talk to them.
> Crazy huh!
Yep.
Platt
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