[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality

[MarshaV]

Hi Ian,

Doesn't matter much?  Here's the problem as I see it.  Do you think 
the theology that is taught from pulpit is a philosophical 
point-of-view.  Each morning in the House of Representatives, the 
ritual is to have a man-of-god start the proceedings with a 
prayer.  It usually starts about 10:00am.  Listen a few mornings.  No 
philosophy there I can assure you.

Isn't it nice to be in a little philosophical tower?

Marsha



At 12:35 PM 1/29/2008, you wrote:
>Thanks Steve,
>
>We understand each other I think (and Harris it seems).
>As so often happens we end up with a linguistic problem for something
>that doesn't really matter very much - the labelling for not
>believeing in anything unbelievable.
>
>How about "normal", "well-adjusted' or simply "sane" ;-) ?
>
>Ian
>
>On 1/29/08, Steven Peterson <stevenkpeterson at mac.com> wrote:
> > Hi Margaret, Ian,
> >
> >
> > >I've been thinking this over for a few days to
> > >decide how to best answer and because I share
> > >commonality in my beliefs with what Marsha just
> > >posted about why she is is an athiest and
> > >with what Sam Harris wrote - which seems to imply
> > >not being an athiest -
> >
> > If you follow the link and read the rest of the speech (the part 
> I excerpted was the end) called "The Problem With Atheism," Sam 
> Harris gives his reasons why he thinks we (meaning people who do 
> not believe in gods) should not call ourselves atheists (though he 
> is considered on of "The New Athiests.")
> >
> > This speech was very contraversial in the atheist world. It is 
> interesting reading. You can also watch the speech here
> > http://www.samharris.org/site/media_video/
> >
> > >How do you define 'atheism'? If you or a group's
> > >definition has already been posted - sorry to
> > >have missed it.
> >
> > An atheist is someone who has considered the dogmatic claims of 
> religion but is unconvinced. Harris says we shouldn't need a word 
> for such a person since this is not a philosophical position. There 
> are an uncountable number of things that we don't believe, but we 
> don't label ourselves as unbelievers with regard to those things. 
> He only grudgingly accepts the labelling.
> >
> > >
> > >I think it's funny that science has become an 'ism'.
> >
> > Scientism is the self-defeating philosphical position that only 
> claims that are verifiable through scientific means are true. (This 
> position is not verifiable through scientific means.) Harris does 
> not subscribe to this philosophy.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steve
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