[MD] MOQ levels

[craigerb at comcast.net]

[Ham]
> Is it the general concept [of the MoQ] that objects are patterns observed by 
> the intellect only, that is to say, that they have no independent existence?

[David M]
> I think patterns are independent of me if someone else can experience them 
> when I'm not there.

David,
I don't think Ham is concerned with the Solipsism/Other Minds philosophical 
debate, but rather with the Idealism/Realism debate.  I see no reason why some patterns are dependent on us & others not.
Craig