[MD] moq thought experiement 1.

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"...From the baby's point of view, something, he knows not what, compels 
attention, This generalized 'something', Whitehead's 'dim apprehension', is 
Dynamic Quality. When he is a few months old the baby studies his hand or a 
rattle, not knowing it is a hand or a rattle, with the same sense of wonder and 
mystery and excitement created by the music and heart attack in the previous 
examples. If the baby ignores this force of Dynamic Quality it can be speculated 
that he will become mentally retarded, but if he is normally attentive to DQ he 
will soon begin to notice differences and then correlations between the 
differences and then repetitive patterns of the correlations."

Hello David and Marsha,
Note the statement:
'From the baby's point of view, something, he knows not what, compels 
attention, This generalized 'something', Whitehead's 'dim apprehension', is 
Dynamic Quality.'

This can be rewritten: 'From the baby's point of view, DQ compels attention.'
This is all i have ever stated Marsha, and David has provided support.

OK. Next bit:
'If the baby ignores this force of Dynamic Quality it can be speculated 
that he will become mentally retarded...'

Speculation means: to guess possible answers to a question when you do not have enough information to be certain. Now isn't that sensible Marsha? Pirsig is not making a dogmatic statement, he's guessing.

As it goes, i agree. And i will go further: I insist this is so.

But, it has been established that as far as Pirsig is concerned, babies experience direct access to DQ.

My assertion is this: If the baby does attend to DQ, AND NOTHING ELSE, then it may be possible to speculate the following: The baby remains attendant to DQ, and doesn't stop attending to DQ.

As far as i understand, Zennies spend allot of effort trying to remain attendant to DQ, but if they did this and?nothing else they would starve and die i should imagine. However, TE1 gets around this and places the brains in vats if you want to have it that way, so they don't die.

squonk