[MD] Sexual experience and death

[David M]

Hi Joe

see comments below

regards
David M

Hi David and all,



[Joe]
For me the value of sex is the excitement, the turn on!  Making Love becomes
a closeness to another.  Both were not just physical!  You express it well:

DM: Excitement is key, excitement implies the unexpected, the unfolding
of the possible in experience I'd suggest. SQ, the same again, would
be somewhat dull.


[Joe]
Not just uniqueness in itself, but a directed vibration evoked by being able
to be very close to another¹s acceptance and participation in a special
moment of openness. Sometimes fear, sometimes annoyance, sometimes love.
Like in a moment of emptiness the whole universe is possible.  An experience
that blunts all memory, and for a moment breaks habitual patterns of
behavior!


DM: Yes, openness. Heidegger's Dasein is often mistranslated as 
being-the-there
it should be translated as being-the-open. Perhaps it takes two to really 
get the
DQ and the unique and the new flowing.

[Joe]
AT the death of Louise I became vacant!  I did not know where to place my
attention, or if I even had any attention?  You put it well with:

DM: What was once possible has become impossible in the actual.
Yet there is a larger possible that we never lose, and our dreams reflect 
this.
Such is the strangely huge fertile potential of human experience.

[David M]
³Reduced in its potential, such that its potential can no longer be
experienced, it is absent.²

[Joe]
By me being absent, there is no response to make a relationship possible.
She was simply put in the ground!

DM: Clearly death means that a body ceases to be a person.
But what happens to a person's possibilities when they die?
Is a dead person any less a real person?

[David M]
Some experiences are richer in DQ than others. Sexual/erotic/love
Experiences with persons are one set of these.

[Joe]
I had no extra attention for seeking answers in sex.  Death is so final, no
answer is possible!

DM: No answer is possible? None at all? I wonder? Once encountered
does a person ever fully leave us?