[MD] moq thought experiment 1.

[Marsha]

Sorry Ham,

I forgot to answer your questions.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] moq thought experiment 1.


> Marsha --
>> So your 'autonomous self' is a bunch of concepts (static patterns
>> of value).  Do they change?  Are these concepts related to the body?
>> Are they influenced by society?  If there was a definition of self in the 
>> MOQ, I think the one I am using would be close: collection of 
>> interrelated, ever-changing, static patterns of inorganic, biological,
>> social and intellectual value in a field of Dynamic Quality.
>
> Okay, let me ask you a question.  What is a collection of anything if it 
> is not known?

If it were a collection of trash, it would be a collection of trash unknown 
to Ham.

If my wife has placed a barrel of trash out on our street corner
> without my knowledge, it doesn't exist for me.

The barrel of trash doesn't exist for you on your street corner.

Does a collection of
> patterns KNOW?  Does a bunch of concepts THINK?

A collection of patterns might be conceptual patterns of the social or 
intellectual kind.   Thinking is an experience dependent on a cause of some 
sorts, either via the senses or a previous thought.

Marsha