[MD] Is sex a vice or just a matter of change?

[David M]

Hi Mark

Not just church and sex but church & culture and vicissitude i.e. change.
My point is not about sex but why a word linked with change, i.e. vice,
is seen as a bad thing.

DM

>
>> Hi MOQers?
>> > Another thought. Is sex a vice?
>
> Hi David,
> According to the moq it can be viewed as a social vice.
> Debates regarding the legalisation of prostitution and the commodification 
> of sex in the entertainment and pleasure industries are centred around 
> this issue it seems to me.
>
> David:
> What makes it so?
>
> s: According to the moq it is the degree to which it may undermine social 
> cohesion.
>
> David:
>> What makes something vicious?
>
> s: According to the moq this may be when biological patterns relating to 
> the extreme violent appropriation of power and submission?dominate.
>
> David:
> Is it when we lose?> control?
>
> s: I should think it may be.
>
> David:
> When order is overcome or missing?
>
> s: I think the term overcome is unfortunate in this exploration.
> And as for missing?
> Well, it happens to the best of us.
>
> David:
>> Is vice and viciousness all a matter or vicissitude?
>
> s: The hormones can become very erratic as biological development takes 
> its course.
> It is a bit of a crime in our culture older people are?not perceived to be 
> sexual beings for example.
> Not sure what you're asking here though?
> ?
> David:
>> Of, in other words dynamic change?
>
> s: Dynamic change and degeneration perhaps with regard to social conflict: 
> There?may be?social codes which impose that which is felt to be 
> appropriate.
>
> David:
> Such are our?
>> inherited and perhaps questionable values.
>
> s: Not a bad thing to question values.
>
>> Vice,vicissitude, vicious -all same word origin apparently.?
>> > David M
>
> s: This may lead back to the church and its dark view of things sexual?
>
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