[MD] Regarding The Fundamental Nature of The Intellectual Level

[Heather Perella]

Chris:
> I myself tend to discard the symbol manipulation
> explanation because of 
> the - as I  see it - quite obvious reason that this is not
> in conflict with 
> anything. The MOQ is a moral order, as we all know, and the
> different levels 
> have more or less competing "views" on Quality
> and how to follow it. Thus I 
> am inclined to thing along the paths of
> "What is not by it's _fundamental nature_ in
> service of either the 
> inorganic, the biological or the social level?"

SA:  What do you mean here by discarding symbol manipulation due to it not "in conflict with anything"?  For then this "conflict with anything" might also be revealing to what you mean even further, if you could explain further, thanks.

Chris:
> As I said - manipulation of symbols doesn't really cut
> it for me - where is 
> the FUNDAMENTAL conflict?

SA:  Do you need conflict?  This is probably not what you mean, so, if you could restate this another way I would appreciate it.


Chris:
> Knowledge for Knowledge's sake. Alone. 

SA:  I like this.  I don't know if this explains everything about intellectual patterns, but this clearly is in that direction, if not the way in the intellectual door, so to speak.  Some questions for further clarification and thinking on this:  What is wisdom?  Different from knowledge?  Same?  
     What I like about this, is, many different kinds of knowledgeable pursuits exist (also read:  different kinds of knowledge), yet, they are still knowledge based or in other words, they are still knowledge.  Thus, many different kinds of intellectual patterns.


SA