[MD] moq thought experiment 1.

Ham Priday hampday1 at verizon.net
Fri Jul 11 10:17:13 PDT 2008


Ron --

> I'm not sure if Quality transcends as much as it is conceived as the
> sum total of all, this goes with some beliefs of God, being and the like.
> Logic aids in understanding experience but it is not experience.
>
> And old Ham should persist, Like I said before, you come about as
> close as one can get to MoQ via SOM. Bodivar would do well to
> take notes from you.
> Ham, what my aim is, is that we share much more in common than
> you may want to admit.

[Ham]:
> MoQ rejects axioms, logic, metaphysics, and definitions, yet appears
> to flourish on analogy, metaphor and euphemisms.  Could the secret
> of its popularity be that it offers a worldview that makes people feel 
> good
> without requiring them to be analytical?

[Ron]:
> I think we have something here. I think it runs analytics out to its
> conclusions by giving a rational explanation about rationality itself.
> offering a worldview that makes people feel good without requiring
> them to be analytical. "Requiring" being the pivotal word.
> When we look for reasons for abstractions we intuitively grasp for
> concrete meaning.  All the Questions come from the same logic that
> struggles to answer them.  If we just realize this and live our lives,
> we can focus on the things that really matter to us.

[Ham]:
> When the individual realizes his freedom to choose, he need no longer
> be constrained by the collective value system.

[Ron]:
> No argument there, I think this is where both Metaphysics join in
> agreement.
> I like it when things come together.
>
> Thank you Ham

Thank you, Ron.  I don't know that I've earned those compliments, but it's 
gratifying to hear that I can be instrumental in "bringing things together". 
Would that others might see that I'm not just a nit-picker peddling my own 
cause here.  To be compared with Bodvar is most flattering.  Indeed, I'd 
hoped for the opportunity to share notes with Bo, since his commitment to 
SOL is as passionate as mine for Essence.  I've also noted some "coming 
around" in the thinking of a few like you on the metaphysical side, 
including Craig, Krimel, Squonk -- even DMB.  It goes to show that Hegel's 
thesis-antithesis-synthesis formula applies as well to philosophy as to 
history.

Kindest regards,
Ham




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