[MD] IPoV's way to Supremacy

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

[Chris]
> We both know that a real communist society never have existed, so to talk
> about any kind of "Record" for theories that never has been is pointless.

[Craig]
On the contrary, there have been plenty of real communist societies. They
have not been very large or long-lasting because, ironically, they're not 
very
profitable.

[Chris]
You are totally missing the point again I see. Even if one tries to build a 
small scale communist society in todays capitalist world, it won't work - 
todays world is based on social level values (profit) and so if you don't 
(like Marx said) remodell the WHOLE of how society is built up and make it 
based on intellectual value instead, then of course it won't work. Then 
social value will swoop in and kill it of - like the church would swoop in 
and kill Galileo.

[Chris)
> The point is that the progress that can be made in a capitalist (social
> level dominated) society always will be subjugated to what has high or low
> social value (I.e what you can make money of)

[Craig]
But what is profitable (= you get more value out than you put in) should be
preferred to what decreases value.

[Chris]
Spoken like a true slave of the social level. Intellectual value should be 
preferred before Social value - THAT'S the moral way.

[Chris]
> regarding the Romanov's and their
> execution - so what?

[Craig]
So what if there was no fair trial? Their children weren't members of the
Young Communist League, after all. And their servents--traitors to the
working class. Your view becomes less moral with each iteration.

[Chris]
Once again missing the point quite brutally. You don't understand the 
meaning of historical anachronism do you?