[MD] Regarding The Fundamental Nature of The Intellectual Level

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Tue Jul 15 05:52:45 PDT 2008


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From: "Christoffer Ivarsson" <IvarssonChristoffer at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Regarding The Fundamental Nature of The Intellectual Level


>
>
>> RMP:
>>
>> "The intellectual level of patterns, in the historic process of freeing
>> itself from its parent social level, namely the church, has tended to 
>> invent
>> a myth of independence from the social level for its own benefit. Science
>> and reason, this myth goes, come only from the objective world, never 
>> from
>> the social world. The world of objects imposes itself upon the mind with 
>> no
>> social mediation whatsoever. It is easy to see the historic reasons for 
>> this
>> myth of independence. Science might never have survived without it. But a
>> close examination shows it isn't so."
>> (LILA, Chapter 12)
>>
>> Sounds to me like science and reason (EVEN of the S/O kind) are social
>> systems.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>
> Quite so. The more one thinks about it, the harder it becomes to find a 
> clear Intellectual Patterns. What I find myself seeing is a few social 
> patterns that have been moulded into fitting Intellectual development - by 
> intellect presumably, but intellectual patterns yet eludes me. And if 
> somebody says freedom I'll scream.
>
> //Chris


Hi Chris,

Have you considered that the Metaphysics of Quality may qualify?

Marsha



 




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