[MD] The 4th.level as "symbol manipulation"
Christoffer Ivarsson
IvarssonChristoffer at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 17 09:56:33 PDT 2008
> Platt:
> Who do you propose do the ruling of the people from the intellectual
> level?
Chris:
Well, it is a delicate question, to be sure. But I think the goal that
humanity should strive for is to build a society that is aimed at balance
between the levels but with a constant supremacy of the intellectual level -
that is, social value patterns must never be allowed to strange peoples
intellectual development. The governance should ideally be one of the
people, a people that is guided by intellectual patterns rather then social
ones first and foremost. One way to bring this about is theoretically that
a avant-garde takes control of society and reshape it in this fashion - this
would not be a democracy of course, but it would be aimed at bringing about
a society where people would be more "enlightened" (to abuse that word a
bit) in the sense that they will be free from the social patterns that
constrained them before and able to focus on intellectual development. That
would be the new norm - originating in the intellectual level and
transferred to the social.
So, in essence, democracy would be moral when humanity has been raised to a
level when intellectual values is the pre-dominant. As it is now, democracy
will more often then not be in service of the social level.
>>
>> Bo:
>>
>>> The ideal intellect-controlled community is democracy with free
>>> press, speech ..etc.. all those patterns that Pirsig lists
>>>
>>
>> A small point, but -
>> I must protest here. Democracy is "the rule of the people" and so it
>> naturally follows that democracy is only MOQ-moral if the people ruling
>> is
>> ruled by the intellectual level above the social level. This is not the
>> case. Anywhere.
>>
>> //Chris
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