[MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet

[MarshaV]

Margaret,

Golden hours indeed, and a beautiful image.

Marsha





>> I spent most of yesterday with my grandson who just turned
>> four-years-old.
>> He loves me and, on such a rainy day, I received the bruises to prove it.
>
>
> beautiful image.
>
> this sums up my day...
>
> golden hours we lie
> side by side, the cat and I
> weightless and drifting with
> the dust.
> I stir, she stirs.
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org
>> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of MarshaV
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:53 AM
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet
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>> Margaret,
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>> Marsha
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Margaret Warren" <carma at carmapro.com>
>> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Intellectual Gauntlet
>>
>>
>> > don't get too excited - I just thought the expression itself struck me
>> > as funny - and one that I thought Marsha in particular, but
>> also Ron, gav
>> > AND Ian...et.al.might see the humor in as well.
>> >
>> > though it really didn't have much to do with the manhood or any of 
>> > those
>> > other
>> > expressions Ron mentioned OR bathroom humor -
>> >
>> > but 'grasping for concrete meaning'...
>> >
>> > [grasping in general - it's like the very word itself is at the
>> > root of all of the 7 deadly sins]
>> > just seems like such a waste of time
>> > when one can be painting or dancing or kissing a lover or
>> > tending a garden or working on a
>> > motorcycle and taking a drive or just breathing...
>> >
>> > this insistence on trying to 'rigourously' define...ugh - how
>> exhausting.
>> >
>> > 'concrete meaning' - now isn't this an oxymoron?
>> >
>> > What might be fun would be to see what we all come up
>> > with from a zen koan - I'll dig out one of my zen books and post one up
>> > shortly. Anyone game?
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Ian:
>> >> >> Whoa ... Marsha, Margaret ... Ron et al
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ian is very "impressed" with Nagarjuna, Ian does indeed have
>> >> >> "middle-way" tattoo'ed on his buttocks, and "excluded-middle"
>> >> >> imprinted any-which-way you slice me .....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I used that phrase - quoting Ron's words - AGAINST those who see 
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> this rational objective rigour as the goal of our critical
>> analysis -
>> >> >> was using it to contrast DMB's claims for rigour againts my (sic)
>> >> >> "drivel" in this case. It's the meme I have been railing
>> against since
>> >> >> long before I even read ZMM, or anything remotely philosophical.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ron:
>> >> >> Ian, Marsha,
>> >> >> I think Margaret was making a funny. Grasping for concrete meaning
>> >> >> and objective rigor, I think (because I have a penchant for 
>> >> >> bathroom
>> >> >> humor)
>> >> >> she was alluding to us males "wrestling with our manhood"
>> >> >> you know "roughing up the suspect" "flaying the fox" "punching the
>> >> >> clown"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lighten up people!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Ron
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Ron,
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, but I've never been privy to such humor.  I am
>> embarrassed, but
>> >> > there's no way I could have gotten the joke.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >