[MD] Tit's

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Mon Jul 28 03:07:21 PDT 2008


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>> Marsha --
>>
>>> Both the designs and the designer are conceptually constructed.
>>> Both are patterns.  I don't see a problem with the MOQ.
>>
>> To see the problem you have to go back to the fundamentals.
>>
>> Remember the 'ex nihilo' principle?  You say the designs and the designer 
>> are "conceptually constructed".  "Conceptually" is an adverb that 
>> describes conception as the configuring process of the intellect. 
>> Anything constructed is a "creation", and creation implies a Creator.
>>
>> I assume you agree that objects are intellectual patterns,  If so, they 
>> are constructed FROM value, not BY value.  Since construction is not an 
>> agent but a process, who or what is the constructive agent?   As an 
>> MoQist, you will probably answer that Intellect is the agent.  And that's 
>> precisely where the problem lies.  For "intellect" is not a disembodied 
>> agency and "value" is not a universal principle.  Both are functions of 
>> the individual observer.  In the absence of an observer, there is no 
>> value realized and no intellect to configure it.
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>


> [Marsha]:
> ... I would state that objects are both conceptualized
> social and intellecutal patterns...

Hi Ham,

There is something wrong with the above statement.  I'll need a little time 
to rethink this.

Marsha








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