[MD] Tit's
MarshaV
marshalz at charter.net
Mon Jul 28 03:07:21 PDT 2008
>
>> Marsha --
>>
>>> Both the designs and the designer are conceptually constructed.
>>> Both are patterns. I don't see a problem with the MOQ.
>>
>> To see the problem you have to go back to the fundamentals.
>>
>> Remember the 'ex nihilo' principle? You say the designs and the designer
>> are "conceptually constructed". "Conceptually" is an adverb that
>> describes conception as the configuring process of the intellect.
>> Anything constructed is a "creation", and creation implies a Creator.
>>
>> I assume you agree that objects are intellectual patterns, If so, they
>> are constructed FROM value, not BY value. Since construction is not an
>> agent but a process, who or what is the constructive agent? As an
>> MoQist, you will probably answer that Intellect is the agent. And that's
>> precisely where the problem lies. For "intellect" is not a disembodied
>> agency and "value" is not a universal principle. Both are functions of
>> the individual observer. In the absence of an observer, there is no
>> value realized and no intellect to configure it.
>
>
> [Marsha]:
> ... I would state that objects are both conceptualized
> social and intellecutal patterns...
Hi Ham,
There is something wrong with the above statement. I'll need a little time
to rethink this.
Marsha
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