[MD] Inanimate rocks

David M davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Sun Jun 1 06:53:45 PDT 2008


Hi Krim

My main point is the plurality of concepts and metaphors available
to understand our experience and the contents of that experience
and that scientific orthodoxy is just one approach, a useful one
we want to keep, but just one. And making progress with our ideas
and better sense of our experiences is more likely if we keep our
conceptual Horizons open. I say that the lunatics should be allowed to
join the debate, they are much more likely to exhaust themselves
and lose influence this way then saying that they have no right to
participate because they are breaking the rules, especially as the next
great insight needs to be able to break the rules too.

My rock is not sure it agrees, so I have had it pulverised so that
should be the last we hear from it.

David M

> DM,
> 
> Just what special understanding do you get out of these panpsychic,
> animistic fantasies? What is it about thinking, feeling, emotionally
> motivated rocks that turns you on?
> 
> Krimel
> 
> 
> Hi Krim
> 
> On inanimate rocks, are they?
> Of course a rock stays put because it is
> frozen at Earth temperatures. But heat it up
> a bit and it flows or bubbles off.
> 
> Solid things seeem inanimate, but do the particles 
> they are made of?
> 
> Particles don't sit around, they fly off in unpredictable
> directions.
> 
> Why do solid things made of particles sit around.
> Gravity? Not entirely, they have inertia. They keep
> sitting or given a push keep moving.
> 
> What is animate? Able to change from sitting to moving
> or moving to sitting?
> 
> Why do solid things sit around?
> 
> Well, particles are like cats that want to keep moving
> but you can get them all tied down by tying them up
> to each other. Tie up enough of these cats with them all
> pulling in different directions and they just are not going
> to move anywhere. Remind you of anything at MOQ central?
> 
> Anyway, there's your rock, bursting to move off but in
> every direction at once. Of course, there is a very small
> chance all the particle cats could 'decide' to move in the
> same direction at the same time, so keep an eye on your
> rock and you never know. At least that'sthe physics of
> so-called inanimate rocks, eh Krim?
> 
> David M
> 
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