[MD] Chance
Marsha
marshalz at charter.net
Fri Jun 13 09:29:19 PDT 2008
>>
>> dmb says:
>> Oh, I see. This is enough to see where you're coming from because I was
>> just there myself. There is a sense in which Pirsig's philosophy is a
>> metaphysical system. We can see this in his treatment of the objections
>> to it that are typically raised by positivists and mystics and in his
>> general attitude that doing metaphysics is unavoidable when dealing with
>> any coherent system of thought. This is not the kind of metaphysics that
>> has been pronounced dead. And I have to say that quoting "academic
>> philosophers" on this point is about the best a person can do because the
>> death of metaphysics refers to a particular set of developments within
>> academic philosophy. Nietzsche was one of the central figures in this
>> development and his "death of God" is still widely discussed. The Radical
>> Empiricism of William James, to use my favorite example, was designed to
>> keep out all metaphysical fictions. This would include the eternal truth,
>> the first cause, God, Ham's primary source, Plato's forms, Kant's
>> things-in-themselves, objective reality and a whole host of entities that
>> could not be known in actual experience but were said to be behind
>> experience or the cause of experience or the conditions of experience,
>> etc. The classical pragmatists see these metaphysical fictions as
>> abstract ideas that were mistakenly inflated and given existential
>> status. They're abstracts mistaken for concrete realities, ideas that
>> forgot they were ideas and thought they were real things. I think
>> "reified" is the word for that. Anyway, the death of metaphysics doesn't
>> even give the flu to the MOQ. I think the MOQ fits into this movement
>> quite nicely.
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Hmmm. I'm more inclined to think that theism and "western academic
> philosophy" are dying, and Metaphysics is evolving. In-deed!
>
> Marsha
>
p.s. I better add, (and I mean it) you will never be bound by the measly
title of 'academic philosopher'.
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