[MD] Sight

[Marsha]

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From: "Abey John" <sunfever at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:32 AM
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> belief is the beginning of sight
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"An eye consciousness actually apprehends only colors and shapes.  Although pots, pillars, and so forth appear to an eye consciousness and although it is said that an eye consciousness sees them, pots, pillars, and so forth are not objects of apprehension by an eye consciousness.  Rather, the color and shape of pots, pillars, and so forth--that is, their visible form--are objects of apprehension by an eye consciousness and thus are also form constituents and form-sources.  Although pots and pillars are matter and are forms, they are not visible forms, form-constituents or form-sources, but tangible objects, tangible-object-constituents, and tangible-object-sources.  Similarly, when one sees the visible form of a human or horse, one sees their shape and color but does not, in a sense, see a human or horse.  Also, seeing earth and water is a case of seeing their color, for earth and water are tangible objects, and therefore, the eye does not see the capacity of hardness or of moistening.  Furthermore, when the visible form of a pot is seen, and eye consciousness does not conceive, 'This is a pot'; a mental consciousness is the identifier and designator of names."  
         (Hopkins, Jeffrey, 'Meditations on Emptiness, P.225)
 
 
 
 
 I'd say, UNBELIEVEABLE!!!   
 
 
 
 
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