[MD] Chance

[Ian Glendinning]

Squonk, Krim, DMB,

Ah yes I see.

2 first. Agreed. The quality view provides a way of looking at the kind of
"scientific" work that has been done in this area without having to keep
stumbling over the organic / mental dualism all the time. (You & DMB have
said that better than me already.)

So 1 ? Yes again. This is my take on "evolving intellect" .... taking the
top level of the MoQ forward ... in some of the "AI" debates we've been
having. There is no doubt that it would be "natural" (ie morally quality) to
engineer the enhancement of mental evolution by any means available - brains
in vats with engineered systems to support them, provide inputs, etc. The
subtlety is not to plan the outcome ('cos we're imperfect human engineers -
we ain't god) but to manage the environment where this could evolve
naturally - in a morally positive direction.

Exciting exchange (for me)
Ian

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:43 AM, <squonkmuse at talktalk.net> wrote:

>
> Hi Krimel, David, Ian,
> It certainly is, but i was using it for a reason not found in the
> literature you cite here, and non that i am aware of?Ian: morality.
> The question i am asking is:
> 1. Would it be more moral to place organic brains in 'vats' in order to
> enhance consciousness and mystical experience?
> The question i do not feel to be relevant is:
> 2. What is the link between the senses and experience? (because i agree
> with David when he explains Pirsig's position regarding Quality.)
> If the answer to 1 is yes, then logically it would be a moral imperative to
> actually do it on an industrial scale.
>
> squonk
>
> (2) The SciFi "brain in a vat" is a common philosophical device for
> studying the link between the senses and experience - Hofstadter /
> Dennett is my favourite example.
>
> Ian
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